hace años que ocurre esto!! lo mismo es con otras especies, y todavia ocurre.! …! no entiendo porque…! Es otra BESTIALIDAD DEL HOMBRE. cuando no joden a otro ser humano, se ensañan con otros seres. no tienen nada bueno que hacer de sus vidas , esta gente »?????!!! Cecilia.
Nada , ni el comercio , ni la necesidad economica puede justificar esto , y cualquier ota cosa negativa. Esta estrategia no es creativa porque es destruciva, de manera contraproducente, Hay que ser inteligente en la manera de usar un recurso ,no destruir.Son idiotas,malvados ,por el egoismo que tienen. ¡¡¡tengo una bronca!!!
Why should it ever come to such a beautiful animal against the selfish nature of some humans, let our considerate side shine! Be AGAINST Ivory…a petty materialistic thing when it has been removed from it’s true state! Ivory does nothing but represent cruelty and destruction of true beauty.
Such barbaric egoistic unnecessary trades must end. A better relationship between elephants and local people in the region need to be worked on also I think. To the poachers, exporters and importers: STOP wasting fuels on that bloody business too you bunch of idiots – causing both ecological and environmental damages.
Not sure about this. Controlling elephant population is an absolute necessity – if there were too many they’d absolutley destory all forests – if you’ve ever seen first hand (like i have) how much damage one elephant can do to one tree you’d agree with me. On that basis I’d like to know the rationale behind the application to « relax the ivory ban » – is it becuase elephant population is now spiralling out of control which threatens trees / other vegetation – if so, I’d like to know more. Its all about context, you see – you can;t just « wave the finger » and go – « yeah, tut tut, killing elephants is bad » – it is on the contrary a necessity to prolong african vegetation. More information would be better. Don;t get me wrong I’m no advocate of illegal poaching of these beautiful and majestic anamals, but you all need to know that if the ivory trade were abolished alltogether the elephant population would spiral out of control and would be a very dangerous threat to african forests. You only have to read a Wilbur Smith book to know that!! All i’m asking for is a bit more background and put this « request for ivory trade laws to be relaxed » into context.
@massivefan. I’m sorry, I was joking, but it is really a serious matter…what I meant to say was some times you’re called to take an opinion, without all the data available… You choose your own batles… In most of cases of wild animals versus man, the animals are in disadvantage(?) the growing population around them, force the ecosistems… there are lots of relavant issues on this, but you have to put those in a balance and choose which are more relevant to you… Bye
More needs to be done than just banning the ivory trade and tackling illegal poaching. This is a bigger issue than just ivory. There needs to be debt cancellation, education and poverty irradication at a grass roots level. Often these animals are killed for their MEAT, the tusks are often an additiional bonus! I am a great lover of Africa, of animals and expecially Ele’s but its always very easy for someone in their comfy armchair to wave the forbidding finger at poachers and then return to eating their oversized meal swilling down a beer. Put yourself in their position, feel their hunger and see what lengths you’d be willing to go to to find food for your malnurished family. It’s all to easy to sign up and do your bit from your pc….and then forget about it.!!
Elephants are very destructive animals, you would not believe what dammage they can do. I have seen whole Mopane Tree forrests wiped out. Old old trees destroyed. A more holistic approach needs to be taken. Culling is a terrible thing but necessary.
Maybe some human culling is necesary to give back some ground to the elephant !!!!
Just think about whether this petition will work, and if it does….what then ? What animal will be next ??
creo que hay que , dejar que la naturaleza haga el equilibrio . Ella sabe . El hombre tiene la capacidad de hacerlo. Ademas ella esta actuando . Pero como dice Evo morales, el presidente de Bolivia : « la madre naturaleza esta enojada » . ¡Atencion con esto! . Ahora veo: ¡caos en el blog ! .
Bravo for supporting a cause like this !
mars 10 •
los elefantes estuvieron muchisimo antes que los humanos!!!! el ser humano es la peor plaga!!!
mars 10 •
Disgusting trade, that should not be still happening in 2010. This must be stopped….
mars 10 •
hace años que ocurre esto!! lo mismo es con otras especies, y todavia ocurre.! …! no entiendo porque…! Es otra BESTIALIDAD DEL HOMBRE. cuando no joden a otro ser humano, se ensañan con otros seres. no tienen nada bueno que hacer de sus vidas , esta gente »?????!!! Cecilia.
mars 10 •
Nada , ni el comercio , ni la necesidad economica puede justificar esto , y cualquier ota cosa negativa. Esta estrategia no es creativa porque es destruciva, de manera contraproducente, Hay que ser inteligente en la manera de usar un recurso ,no destruir.Son idiotas,malvados ,por el egoismo que tienen. ¡¡¡tengo una bronca!!!
mars 10 •
Why should it ever come to such a beautiful animal against the selfish nature of some humans, let our considerate side shine! Be AGAINST Ivory…a petty materialistic thing when it has been removed from it’s true state! Ivory does nothing but represent cruelty and destruction of true beauty.
mars 10 •
Thanks so much for the information…I’ll sign right now….I hope it can helps… :(
mars 10 •
Signed… had it in my mail…
mars 10 •
Such barbaric egoistic unnecessary trades must end. A better relationship between elephants and local people in the region need to be worked on also I think. To the poachers, exporters and importers: STOP wasting fuels on that bloody business too you bunch of idiots – causing both ecological and environmental damages.
mars 10 •
Elephants look so much better alive and with their tusks…they are happier too.
mars 11 •
Not sure about this. Controlling elephant population is an absolute necessity – if there were too many they’d absolutley destory all forests – if you’ve ever seen first hand (like i have) how much damage one elephant can do to one tree you’d agree with me. On that basis I’d like to know the rationale behind the application to « relax the ivory ban » – is it becuase elephant population is now spiralling out of control which threatens trees / other vegetation – if so, I’d like to know more. Its all about context, you see – you can;t just « wave the finger » and go – « yeah, tut tut, killing elephants is bad » – it is on the contrary a necessity to prolong african vegetation. More information would be better. Don;t get me wrong I’m no advocate of illegal poaching of these beautiful and majestic anamals, but you all need to know that if the ivory trade were abolished alltogether the elephant population would spiral out of control and would be a very dangerous threat to african forests. You only have to read a Wilbur Smith book to know that!! All i’m asking for is a bit more background and put this « request for ivory trade laws to be relaxed » into context.
mars 11 •
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mars 11 •
massivefan, want to pick a fight!? Not at all in my plans, but you never know, after all ‘danger is everywhere’!!!! Peace…
mars 11 •
@massivefan. I’m sorry, I was joking, but it is really a serious matter…what I meant to say was some times you’re called to take an opinion, without all the data available… You choose your own batles… In most of cases of wild animals versus man, the animals are in disadvantage(?) the growing population around them, force the ecosistems… there are lots of relavant issues on this, but you have to put those in a balance and choose which are more relevant to you… Bye
mars 12 •
I agree with Massivefan.
More needs to be done than just banning the ivory trade and tackling illegal poaching. This is a bigger issue than just ivory. There needs to be debt cancellation, education and poverty irradication at a grass roots level. Often these animals are killed for their MEAT, the tusks are often an additiional bonus! I am a great lover of Africa, of animals and expecially Ele’s but its always very easy for someone in their comfy armchair to wave the forbidding finger at poachers and then return to eating their oversized meal swilling down a beer. Put yourself in their position, feel their hunger and see what lengths you’d be willing to go to to find food for your malnurished family. It’s all to easy to sign up and do your bit from your pc….and then forget about it.!!
Elephants are very destructive animals, you would not believe what dammage they can do. I have seen whole Mopane Tree forrests wiped out. Old old trees destroyed. A more holistic approach needs to be taken. Culling is a terrible thing but necessary.
Maybe some human culling is necesary to give back some ground to the elephant !!!!
Just think about whether this petition will work, and if it does….what then ? What animal will be next ??
muni
mars 12 •
creo que hay que , dejar que la naturaleza haga el equilibrio . Ella sabe . El hombre tiene la capacidad de hacerlo. Ademas ella esta actuando . Pero como dice Evo morales, el presidente de Bolivia : « la madre naturaleza esta enojada » . ¡Atencion con esto! . Ahora veo: ¡caos en el blog ! .
mars 13 •
Ok, only massive things, sorry!
Did you enjoy the concert?
Did it went well?
Hope so!
mars 13 •
I think you’ve made a good choice!
mars 13 •
You know me… can’t be quiet for long… what if…. take four, put five and instead of ten, put PFR? Just me thinking ‘out loud’…
mars 13 •
Seen Flat of the Blade for the 2nd time… liked it more than the first…
mars 13 •
You have hit the mark. Thought good, I support.
avril 15 •